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Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:20:00 -
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I need to run courier missions into low sec to get NPC standings. I make insta jumps when I can, but sometimes I don't have one at the station in hand. I use a transport ship with three inertial stabilizers and full cloak. So the only time I am vulnerable is undocking after the mission completes (assuming they don't have a warp bubble on the gate). Currently I just immediately redock and go AFK if I see any ship in the overview when I undock. However, that cat-and-mouse game can be tedious and may be unnecessary if the ship doesn't care about me.
With the stabilizers I can be in warp in about five seconds to any gate. Someone with maxed targeting skills and ship bonuses could get a lock in that time if they are paying attention. I am thinking of using three T2 multi-spectrum ECM bursters. Hopefully they would prevent a lock within 5 seconds. However, I would rather not lose a transport experimenting with this. I was wondering if anyone has tried this and whether it works. |
Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.17 05:22:00 -
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Jimmy O'Shanty wrote:There are no bubbles in low sec, only null and wormholes. And fit a microwarpdrive. When your warping out of a gate camp (or anywhere for that matter) immediately hit your MWD then cloak. I've been in and around lowsec for years with the same Viator. I've never used multi-spectrum ECM bursters and haven't been caught. Yet.
I was talking about warp disruption field generators that surpress all warps within 16 Km of the ship. AFAIK, they can be used in heavy interdictors anywhere.
Quote:The only tricky part for you, running missions, is that you'll be frequenting the same stations. And leaving stations is where you're taking the biggest risk. Quick undock bookmarks will help but sooner or later people are going to remember you, particularly if your hitting the same stations multiple times a night.
As I indicated, I am not worried about gate camps; only leaving the station after the courier missin is completed. Also, I said I was concerned about the situation where I did not have an insta warp bookmark yet. It takes 14 seconds to MWD to the station perimeter where I can turn on the cloak. Anybody waiting for me can get a lock in that time, even at MWD speed.
But with three inertial stabs, I can align any warp in just under five seconds, even a 180-¦ alignment. If I can disrupt the lock for that five seconds, I am gone. Three T2 bursters should give me that, but I would like to be sure before I try it.
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Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:28:00 -
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Artuard Envien wrote:'' Create some instant undock bookmarks. Burst ecm will hit the station and probably cause more harm than benefit.
As I said, I do that when possible. But I am concerned about the situation when I don't have a bookmark.
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Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:30:00 -
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Jonas Staal wrote:Will you not get station/gate guns for using ecm burst?
My understanding is that only applies to high sec.
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Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:55:00 -
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Alric Rosenthal wrote:
In low security space area of effect warp disruption applications can not be used. Such things as the light interdictor's warp disruption probe and the heavy intirdictors bubble are unusable. You are only vulnerable to targeted warp disruption and scrambling. Other things that can not be used are bombs on stealth bombers and doomsdays on titans.
Good to know. I thought it was like smartbombs -- a strictly high sec restriction. Saves me losing my Viator. Ty.
Quote:It is easy to set an instant undock. Get to the station when no one is active in the system and burn away from the undock in a straight line with a fast frigate. Once you are 400+km away set a bookmark and then do it a couple more times as you burn away, separating your bookmarks by about 50 km. To test these just warp back to the station, dock, and undock. You should be able to warp to one of your bookmarks near instantly as the inertia from your undock pushes you into warp.
Using an ecm burst on a station or gate will get you killed by the guns. I recommend a MWD. I hope this helps you.
I know how to do the bookmarks and I always make them so long as nobody is lurking around the station. My problem is when I haven't done one yet and somebody is lurking. The MWD doesn't help getting out of the station; it is too far to the docking perimeter (roughly 14 seconds) before the cloak can go on. So I guess I will have to continue my current technique of redocking and AFK.
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Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:56:00 -
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Plato Forko wrote:if you keep a packaged frigate in the hauler's cargohold you can swap to that and run the camp. keep burning until you are on a different grid from the station then you can make a BM and voila you have an insta to warp to after getting back in the hauler. i'm not going to explain how to prevent an instalocker from stopping you, that solution takes a bit of creativity, the element of surprise and some luck 
Now that is an interesting idea. I assume the reason is that even though the shuttle is much slower than the Viator w/ MWD, the signature radius is so small that the lurker can't get a lock. But is that true? I've locked on drones, which have comparable signatures. Or are you arguing that the shuttle is expendable and gives you a chance to get a bookmark if the lurker is a little sleepy at the switch?
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Elbie Klep
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.18 02:27:00 -
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Plato Forko wrote:yeah, for one a frig with MWD is way faster than a shuttle and a certain frig is bonused for a certain type of mod that can break locks *hint hint* to confound an instalocker that might try to scram or web you before you're out of range. really though, it's a bit of a surprise for a frig to suddenly start booting away from station immediately after undocking, so even for an instalock ship the chances are good that even with sig bloom factored in you'll be out of scram and web range by the time they can activate modules on you.
OK, I'll look into that. Ty.
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